Category Archives: DNA

Triangulating Your DNA Matches with Roberta Estes – FREE – MyHeritage Facebook LIVE

Roberta Estes of the blog DNAeXplained just announced that she will be giving a free presentation, with Q&A, about triangulating your DNA matches at MyHeritage on Facebook Live tomorrow April 27 at 11 am PDT.  This presentation should make some of the principles surrounding triangulation easier to understand.  (See previous post here).

  • What is triangulation?
  • Why do I need to triangulate?
  • Why does triangulation work?
  • How do I triangulate?
  • How do I find matches to triangulate?
  • How does triangulation confirm ancestors?
  • How can I use triangulation in my genealogy?
  • Am I using all the tools to find triangulated matches?

If you’d like to learn more about any of those questions,  join her tomorrow at 11 AM PDT on the MyHeritage Facebook page.

https://dna-explained.com/2020/04/26/top-tips-for-triangulating-your-dna-matches-with-roberta-estes-free-myheritage-facebook-live-april-27th/

 

Great post at DNAeXplained

Just sittin’ around, trying to add more cousins to the family trees of my wife and self. The easy fruit was picked last year, now it is slow and well, the truth is, you see, I sometimes try to prepare things to talk about in the next DNA Discussions group using my own searching as the backdrop. Trying to explain it to someone else somehow makes it easier. I said “somehow”, it really isn’t easier.

Now then, I don’t really believe in esp nor mind reading nor any of that sort. I did pay money to see Uri Geller bend spoons once, but those days are over. But today perhaps I will revisit the idea that clairvoyance or premonitions actually do exist. For you see, Roberta Estes just wrote a wonderful blog post about the very things I was trying to teach myself these past few weeks! She did a much better job than I could ever do. In fact, I might print her current posting and study it hard! I might be able to actually find that missing father in our family!

The latest post on the blog DNAeXplained – Genetic Genealogy is all about Chromosome Browsers, Triangulation, and the like with real examples and comparisons of the different companies and links to almost all kinds of genetic sleuthing.

CLICK HERE for DNAeXplained

If you are serious about using your DNA test results to find out more about your relatives, then you really need to visit the above linked post. We might even have a quiz about it at the next DNA Discussions group! 🙂

We (DNA Discussions) are looking for volunteers to present about things you recently discovered.  If interested, send an email to jim.mocogenso@gmail.com.


“Find the job you would want if you didn’t have to work. Don’t sleepwalk through life. You really want to be doing what you love. And you can’t necessarily find it on your first job, but don’t give up until you find it.” – Warren Buffett


23andMe Family Tree is now accepting editing!

If you haven’t looked, 23andMe now has Editing available in its Family Tree! One of our DNA Discussions group (thanks Gail) sent me a note about it. Sure enough, when you click on a circle in the Tree, two new options appear: Edit Relationship and Add Relatives. Be careful, I haven’t found a how-to guide going in yet, but there seems to be decent explanations as you go. The Tree is no longer marked Beta!

The tree algorithms have been changed too. The chart and cousin relationships are more accurate! But watch it, an old line of cousins disappeared which was an accurate line. Not sure why, but I’m going to try to add them back with the new tools.

One set of my maternal great grandparents were quite prolific, having had twelve kids who followed their parents habits — making for four lines coming from them in the new tree. Add to that the missing line and I have five cousins to try to determine their lineage coming from that one family. I put them into the chromosome mapper found in the Advanced DNA Comparison. Sure enough, the various lines “sorta” get defined within the chromosome map. Combining the two tools is useful. When mapping, I started out comparing to myself, then I deleted me and the patterns worked better.

Remember to send notes to cousins you can’t quite place. Some of them will help out. Be sure you reply too. 🙂

I really like this 23andMe site. It has the tools we need! Couple that with the tree building functions in Ancestry.com and my computer in one hand and my iPad in the other and I am set to get through this pandemic without even noticing! But, the wife says I gotta exercise more than my fingers….


I received a reply from the cousin whose line is missing in my current Tree. I show up in his. Go figure…


“You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today. And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run…” – Pink Floyd


DNA Success Story

Another local friend found close family through DNA testing! I learned of the success last week when I was told that my friend had “found” his bio-mother and six half siblings! Quite a haul, I would say. Since I had coerced him into taking a DNA test three years ago, I naturally wanted to know how he did it.

He had given up and quit looking. There were no big matches back then and tree guesstimate’s were not in his personality. But he is a communicator! Early on, he had contacted some of his distant matches and one of them offered to monitor his DNA when he expressed frustration. That was three years ago.

And then luck stepped in. Someone somewhere bought their father a DNA test at AncestryDNA and the father turned out to be my friend’s half brother! And my friend’s distant cousin, who had more patience than either of us, was on top of it. She called the match, confirmed the details, and put the two “new” brothers in contact with each other.

    Take away?

  1. Communication for sure. If he hadn’t emailed his distant cousins, this awareness might not have happened. And if she hadn’t called the new match, this might not have happened.
  2. Patience for sure. If she hadn’t continued to watch, for three years, this knowledge might have gone dark. True, the brother might have tried contacting his new match, but given that my friend had quit looking, this might have been another of those “no contact” emails!
  3. Last take away? Take the darn test!

Finally, if you have taken a DNA test at AncestryDNA, and are getting bored, don’t just forget about it. Don’t delete it. Instead, assign someone to manage it for you!


” The answer to life = (-80538738812075974)^3 + 80435758145817515^3 + 12602123297335631^3 = 42.”


MyHeritage is having a sale!

Sometimes we are asked “What DNA test is the best?”  Humm, that is dependent on you purpose for doing the test in the first place.  We can talk about that in a future version of the DNA Discussions Sig.  

Meanwhile, I generally say that the top companies are AncestryDNA, 23andMe, Family Tree DNA, and MyHeritage.  I go on to suggest that the questioner wait for a sale — and then buy.  Well, MyHeritage has a sale going on now, during April, that is the lowest I have ever seen, $39 !  If you are really serious about taking an autosomal DNA test, go for this now.  MyHeritage is a good company, has great reporting systems, and your data can be downloaded for future use. And it has a big enough pool of testers that you are bound to find matches!  

You need to know that MyHeritage has an annual fee too, for building a tree, etc. But for the DNA, the $39 can’t be beat.

others currently 4/3/2020
FTDNA – $79 , no annual
AncestryDNA – $99 , annual
23andMe (ancestry only) – $99 , no annual

Virtual Meetings – first up: DNA Discussions

MoCoGenSo is going to try holding online meetings using an application called ZOOM. We will begin our experiment with the DNA Discussion group. Zoom is a video conferencing system that allows online real-time virtual meetings to be held with from 2 to 100 participants. If this first test works well, we will expand our virtual meeting menu for other meetings. The future is ours to make!

Setup:
Zoom will run on phone, tablets (iPads, etc), and/or laptop/desktop computers. Depending on which device you plan to use, your instructions are a bit different.  But for ALL devices, you will need to download and install the ZOOM application first – it’s FREE. If you plan to use a phone, your video will be very small but it still works fine. If you have a choice about which hardware to use, opt for the larger screen because you can see more! Once in the meeting, you can play with the video/audio options to see what works best for you.

Tablets/phones:
Go to your APP store and get the ZOOM Cloud Meetings app and install it. Once installed, you are ready to go when the meeting time comes around.

Desktop/Laptop Computers:
In your browser, go to www.zoom.us . In the upper right corner, click on RESOURCES, then click on DOWNLOAD ZOOM CLIENT FOR MEETINGS. The client will download into your DOWNLOAD folder. Go to that folder and just double click on the file called “zoominstaller.exe” and Zoom will automatically install onto your computer.

Joining the Meeting:
Once Zoom is installed you are ready to go. You do not have to create a Zoom account to join a meeting. You just have to have the software previously installed. On the day of the meeting, we will post a link here that you will just have to click on to join the meeting! This is the experimental part of this, we’ve never posted a link for public access before.  You will have to enter your name before joining — everyone in the meeting can see your name.  Be sure to agree to video and audio.

You should be able to see and hear each other. A presenter can display their desktop so we can show action just as if we were watching the screen during an in-person meeting. You can enable/disable video while in the meeting. You can also change video to “gallery” mode to see all of us at once or you can set it to “speaker” mode to see only the current speaker.

If anyone has trouble installing the software or connecting to the meeting, you can call me separately and I’ll see if I can help to get you in.

Go ahead, install Zoom and join us for our first “experimental” virtual DNA Discussion group on Wednesday April 1st at 12:00 noon. Like all MoCoGenSo meetings, they are open to all, you do not have to be a member to attend.

By the way, Zoom can be used for free to connect your family members too. Try it!


I will run a test or two before next Wednesday. If you have Zoom installed and are a follower here and receive a post with a scheduled meeting link, feel free to join in. We need to test this, after all.


DNA Discussion Group Meets on Wednesday March 4 at Noon

Rootstech 2020 is over, and lots of folks are now deep into researching their family again. Many people, perhaps some of your cousins, have purchased DNA test kits and are now, as we speak, spitting or swabbing. In a few weeks, there will be a rash of new matches appearing at the various sits. Will we be ready?

There were three streaming sessions at Rootstech about DNA. Junel Davidson is going to lead discussions about new findings and features.

Angie Bush talked about adding to your tree using DNA. Blaine Bettinger discussed DNA and the law! Robin Wirthlin taked about emotional family side of DNA. There was more of course.

I hope someone talks about the new Mitochondrial project called Million Mito. It will be attempting to trace the family tree of “womankind”! That sounds exciting, Both my wife and I want to find out how to participate.

Remember, this is a DNA discussion group for all levels. Come join the crowd.

”Like anything else, to get results, you have to feed the machine. Computers do their best work with more, rather than less, information.” – Roberta Estes