Category Archives: DNA

DNA Painter WATO Update


DNA Painter is a great website that has lots of tools, most are usable with a free account. We have discussed parts of it here before and have had demos of it in the DNA SIG.

The website The DNA Geek just brought it to our attention that the DNA Painter tool called WATO (What Are The Odds) has a version 2 in beta test that can take an imported Gedcom file! Wow, this will make building the WATO Tree much easier. And birth & death dates will automatically be pulled in.

You can read the DNA Geek article: CLICK HERE.

Or, of course, just go to DNA Painter itself, go to the TOOLS page and look for the WATO Beta V2 link. 


“Time you enjoy wasting, was not wasted.” – John Lennon


Refreshing the 23andMe Tree

23andMe builds a nice tree using DNA matches which can be augmented yourself with people who have not tested. The tree is usually small, and, except for your additions and the recently deceased, only has living people. The tree is fun, since it is DNA driven! There are issues with it which we have discussed in our DNA SIG meetings, but most people like it.

Kitty Cooper writes a great blog about “genealogy, genetics and gardening”. Kitty Cooper is an American bridge player and genetic genealogist from New York City. I enjoy her posts and her blog has a permanent place in my Feedly sites. See her blog CLICK HERE .

She just wrote another posting about the 23andMe tree! Most of the post is interesting personal views, but the thing that caught my eye was the part about recalculating the tree. 23andMe doesn’t include a simple push-button method of refreshing the tree, Kitty shows how to do it!

See the whole posting here: CLICK HERE.

Be sure to save a picture of the tree with your additions before you try this! 😊


“It’ll all work out in the end; if it isn’t worked out, it ain’t the end.” – Betsy Johnson


Y-DNA

My last DNA test at FTDNA was the Big-Y test in 2018. At that time, the Big-Y was the Big-Y500. Now they have the Big-Y700. The 500 vs 700 has to do with how many STR markers are included. This Y-DNA test is the most expensive genetic test you can get except for a full genome test. I figured I was done doing Y-DNA tests after my Big-Y500. The test pulled me out to haplogroup I-A13294 !

I sent my BAM file to YFULL, got positioned in their tree and have been simply waiting for more paternal line cousins to take a test to make my Private Variants useful, that is, to form another extension in my tree.

Along comes Roberta Estes again. She wrote another post BIG Y ANALYSIS last week, this time about Big-Y DNA analysis.

She makes it sound really useful for me to upgrade my Big-Y500 to the Big-Y700. I’m worried that I might be a sucker, aka addicted, to DNA tests. I really need someone to help me decide. Here we go again, waiting for sales, perhaps on Father’s Day or the 4th of July. Perhaps someone can come to the next DNA Discussion video conference and give us all a bit of guidance!

Charlie… read the above post and then tell me what to do! 😊


“DNA has shown that the ancestors you think you have aren’t necessarily the ancestors you actually have.” – young wives tale


Ancestry.com is blocking Genetic Affairs

I finally opened my Genetic Affairs account last week, ran a few Pedigree charts and reported here about it! And then, Ancestry.com told Genetic Affairs to STOP.  My timing is terrible. Seriously, see these excerpts from the email they sent to me.

As some of you may have already heard, last Friday I (Evert-Jan Blom, founder of Genetic Affairs) obtained a cease and desist letter from ZwillGen, the legal representatives from Ancestry. In short, Ancestry wants me to stop offering the AutoCluster analyses that employ Ancestry data.

I was able to get one Auto Cluster run at Ancestry completed before the plug was pulled! I also ran two at FTDNA, but preferred the results from Ancestry.

Presumably Ancestry is unhappy with the things Genetic Affairs provides. Or they are developing something similar themselves.

So, what will happen tomorrow? Or next week. Tune in for more news. If you know more answers, please let us all know.


Genetic Affairs has AutoPedigree

Why is it that the virus makes it harder to get things done? Again, I find myself just sitting around, trying to catch up with the next Netflix series….

MyHeritage gave me another suggestion to fix my issues with Theory of Relativity after uploading a new gedcom tree that did not work. Arghh, I get tired telling them that didn’t work either. It is too bad they are so shorthanded that they can’t actually test a suggestion before they feed it to customers. I’m reaching the point that I will stop recommending MyHeritage to newbies.

Roberta Estes wrote a post last week about a new Genetic Affairs product called AutoPedigree that sounded so interesting that I finally tried it.

I’ve always been nervous about the way Genetic Affairs saves your Ancestry or FTDNA account log-on passwords. And there is a fee that requires a credit card. Barbara Ray-Venter recommended it two years ago, but I was just squeamish about it. It took Roberta to push me over the edge (and the fact that I finally had a real unknown in my family). If you have unknown parentage issues in your family, this could be a great tool for you. Be sure to read the post. I will talk a little about it during the next DNA Discussions group. It is really quite slick!

Roberta’s post on the blog DNAeXplained – Genetic Genealogy can be found here:
CLICK for DNAeXplained


“God forbid we should be 20 years without a rebellion … What country can preserve its liberties if the rulers are not warned from time to time that their people preserve the spirit of resistance?.” – Thomas Jefferson


Genetic Genealogist CeCe Moore Stars in New ABC Series, ‘The Genetic Detective’

Starting Tuesday, May 19, the renowned investigative genetic genealogist will show viewers exactly how she solves decades-old murder cases on ABC News’ new primetime series, The Genetic Detective.

Airing on Tuesdays from 10 to 11 p.m. ET, the series follows Moore, the Chief Genetic Genealogist at Parabon NanoLabs in Virginia, and her team, who’ve helped solve more than 100 cold cases using crime scene DNA, state-of-the-art technology and Moore’s genealogy tracking skills.

Her passion began as a hobby when she started researching her own family tree. She honed her skills over the years by helping adoptees find their birth families. Sound like anyone you know? I know my DVR will be recording this one!


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Triangulating Your DNA Matches with Roberta Estes – FREE – MyHeritage Facebook LIVE

Roberta Estes of the blog DNAeXplained just announced that she will be giving a free presentation, with Q&A, about triangulating your DNA matches at MyHeritage on Facebook Live tomorrow April 27 at 11 am PDT.  This presentation should make some of the principles surrounding triangulation easier to understand.  (See previous post here).

  • What is triangulation?
  • Why do I need to triangulate?
  • Why does triangulation work?
  • How do I triangulate?
  • How do I find matches to triangulate?
  • How does triangulation confirm ancestors?
  • How can I use triangulation in my genealogy?
  • Am I using all the tools to find triangulated matches?

If you’d like to learn more about any of those questions,  join her tomorrow at 11 AM PDT on the MyHeritage Facebook page.

https://dna-explained.com/2020/04/26/top-tips-for-triangulating-your-dna-matches-with-roberta-estes-free-myheritage-facebook-live-april-27th/

 

Great post at DNAeXplained

Just sittin’ around, trying to add more cousins to the family trees of my wife and self. The easy fruit was picked last year, now it is slow and well, the truth is, you see, I sometimes try to prepare things to talk about in the next DNA Discussions group using my own searching as the backdrop. Trying to explain it to someone else somehow makes it easier. I said “somehow”, it really isn’t easier.

Now then, I don’t really believe in esp nor mind reading nor any of that sort. I did pay money to see Uri Geller bend spoons once, but those days are over. But today perhaps I will revisit the idea that clairvoyance or premonitions actually do exist. For you see, Roberta Estes just wrote a wonderful blog post about the very things I was trying to teach myself these past few weeks! She did a much better job than I could ever do. In fact, I might print her current posting and study it hard! I might be able to actually find that missing father in our family!

The latest post on the blog DNAeXplained – Genetic Genealogy is all about Chromosome Browsers, Triangulation, and the like with real examples and comparisons of the different companies and links to almost all kinds of genetic sleuthing.

CLICK HERE for DNAeXplained

If you are serious about using your DNA test results to find out more about your relatives, then you really need to visit the above linked post. We might even have a quiz about it at the next DNA Discussions group! 🙂

We (DNA Discussions) are looking for volunteers to present about things you recently discovered.  If interested, send an email to jim.mocogenso@gmail.com.


“Find the job you would want if you didn’t have to work. Don’t sleepwalk through life. You really want to be doing what you love. And you can’t necessarily find it on your first job, but don’t give up until you find it.” – Warren Buffett


23andMe Family Tree is now accepting editing!

If you haven’t looked, 23andMe now has Editing available in its Family Tree! One of our DNA Discussions group (thanks Gail) sent me a note about it. Sure enough, when you click on a circle in the Tree, two new options appear: Edit Relationship and Add Relatives. Be careful, I haven’t found a how-to guide going in yet, but there seems to be decent explanations as you go. The Tree is no longer marked Beta!

The tree algorithms have been changed too. The chart and cousin relationships are more accurate! But watch it, an old line of cousins disappeared which was an accurate line. Not sure why, but I’m going to try to add them back with the new tools.

One set of my maternal great grandparents were quite prolific, having had twelve kids who followed their parents habits — making for four lines coming from them in the new tree. Add to that the missing line and I have five cousins to try to determine their lineage coming from that one family. I put them into the chromosome mapper found in the Advanced DNA Comparison. Sure enough, the various lines “sorta” get defined within the chromosome map. Combining the two tools is useful. When mapping, I started out comparing to myself, then I deleted me and the patterns worked better.

Remember to send notes to cousins you can’t quite place. Some of them will help out. Be sure you reply too. 🙂

I really like this 23andMe site. It has the tools we need! Couple that with the tree building functions in Ancestry.com and my computer in one hand and my iPad in the other and I am set to get through this pandemic without even noticing! But, the wife says I gotta exercise more than my fingers….


I received a reply from the cousin whose line is missing in my current Tree. I show up in his. Go figure…


“You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today. And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run…” – Pink Floyd